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A friend of mine who lives in Columbus and knows some people at the Ohio State University told him that Georgia Tech and Virginia have been invited to the Big Ten and they are ready to jump ASAP,but the real story is that UC could be in a bidding war for their services to go to either the ACC or the Big 12. This is what he told me: The Big 12 wants Florida State,Clemson,UC and either UConn or a surprise school,which he told me is Boise State. Boise State wants out the Mountain West and they are begging to come to the Big 12. ACC is realizing that the 4 to 6 schools are ready to leave,so they are looking at UC,UConn,Temple,USF and UCF. He told me that UC has the upper hand in where they want to go and everyone,including ESPN,knows it. ESPN doesn't want UC in the ACC or the Big 12 because they are considered small time in football and in basketball. I told him that I will believe it when I see it,but anything is possible. I asked him what do you see happening in conference realignment and he told me that he thinks that UC will end up in the Big 12,not the ACC. Hey,I don't know what is going to happen but I wouldn't surprise me that UC will be in a good conference within a year. Go Cats!!!!!!!
Gotta be false. No way Boise wants to leave the mwc, they just got a ridiculous tv deal with them. Which is something they wouldnt get in the big 12. No way they are "begging" to get out.
This post was edited by BinturongLax 15 months ago
Boise would leave in a heartbeat for the big 12...Forbes just listed the big-12 as the richest conference per school at almost $27 million per year.
Big12! Lets get it done. But I really hope uconn isn't a part of that deal. Anyone but them.
IMO UC will end up in the Big 12. It's not a coincidence we have an AD from a Big 12 school and now a head coach. Oklahoma was impressed with the fan turnout at PBS when they came here as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there are behind the scene negotiations going on between UC, Mike Brown and the county as we speak to get it done. It is a lot of revenue for the city with the Big Teams coming in. A lot of black jack and craps that would be played as well. I believe OSU is playing their spring game here because they know it is going to happen and this posses a huge threat to their future. It is also a way for the Big 12 to get back at the Big1G for grabbing Nebraska. Like I said UC will have several, if not three, invites to choose from. Also OSU wants to prove to the Big1G they are more popular than UC in the Cincinnati market. Probably getting pressure from other schools to invite UC to protect their territory.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Bearcatmac 15 months ago
I don't think anybody truly knows because so much depends on what happens with the current ACC teams. People believe the UC is the best team left on the market and when the puzzles start falling again, they believe our name will be called.
There is another thread in which a poster MSMoose indicates that UC should know something on 1/31.
This date jives with a Big12 meetings in which expansion is supposed to be a topic scheduled for 1/27-28.
I do believe that UC higher ups have some kind of handshake agreement that they will get an invite to one of the Power 5 (likely the ACC but maybe the Big12). I do not believe they could've pursauded TT to come to UC without being able to assure him that UC will not be stuck in conference no man's land. I also don't believe they would've hurried up the expansion of Nippert for the same reason. Nippert expansion has been discussed for years on and off and all of the sudden it comes out of nowhere and is a real project.
Hopefully our wait is over shortly and UC is headed to the Big12 or ACC.
He lost me when he said small time in basketball.
I also have to believe the staff is telling the recruits something about where we are headed or there is no way we get in with some of these recruits. I know relationships mean alot, but no kid that is any good wants to play in the conference of misfit toys.
It has been repeated on multiple occasions......the renovation had absolutely NOTHING to do with conference realignment. Been in the works for years, needed to be renovated regardless. We are a perfect for the ACC but it depends on the Maryland lawsuit over the $50 mil exit fee. The Big 12 needs to expand but who knows if they will. Just throwing it out there.
The part of the story I definitely don't buy is:
"ESPN doesn't want UC in the ACC or the Big 12 because they are considered small time in football and in basketball."
That sounds more like more O$U arrogant BS than anything else.
The All University Capital Campaign "Proudly Cincinnati" ends this June after a 5 year run.
There were to be absolutely no other UC campaigns while Proudly Cincinnati was going on so UC solicitors were not hitting up donors with multiple requests.
But Athletics is suddenly giving the go ahead to start the capital Campaign for expanding Nippert before the end of the Proudly Cincinnati Campaign.
Why the sudden rush, while the All-University Campaign is still going on, for expansion plans that have been in the works for years?
Yeah that's nice to say when you don't want to tip your hand but they woke up and realized studies talks and meetings talking about expansion wasnt enough. Plans needed to be in place. It's all about expansion. Lets be serious here.
If UC is small time then why do we get talked about all the time i.e. Edie George talks more about UC than CBus state on his radio show as he sees UC a threat to his Buttguys. His co host Marky Mark Packer talks more about UC than his Clemson Tiggers as well for the same reason. Here are the facts when UC is on TV the ratings are there and I would say it is because people love to hate UC. Look at the Belk Bowl ratings compared to the last two years. Out of the teams left out of the Big 5 Cincinnati is the largest media market and is untapped by ACC or Big 12.
Don't mean to disparage you or your friend, but everybody and their little brother has connections and a 'source' somewhere that would know something. Truth is, people don't know anything. This is not worth worrying over or spending too much time on. People are just speculating and have been for months on end now.
Lets pump the brakes here and not start throwing out domino scenarios based off an event that is not even close to confirmed by anyone yet.
UC LCoB '12 - @RyanTJBauer
I'm going to be honest, if this happens (meaning UC goes Big XII, moves home games to PBS), I will be borderline furious. UC would be sacrificing everything that makes them a special event in this city.
I honestly feel we could end up being another Iowa St in this scenario. Is that really what we as a university want our athletics to be? Just bland? We don't fit in the Big XII in any way, football wise, basketball wise, culture wise, recruiting wise. It should be considered only a last option move if its that or get left out. And we shouldn't be moving games downtown. In the OP's rumor scenario above, I would still rather be in the ACC after the defections than be the red headed step child of the Big XII with their inept leadership and Texas dominance.
I have to get in this discussion for one statement. Remember everyone what is driving this TRAIN and it is FOOTBALL..
So with that in mind which conference has the best football the "ACC" or the "BIG 12"?? Then answer the question what conference should UC be in? Hands down the "BIG 12".
UC will never move all games to PBS, even if they were offered by the Big12. Only the marquee teams from the Big12 would possibly be moved. Whit understands and appreciates the importance of Nippert.
While the ACC may be the better fit, UC has to move to a Power Conference or be relegated to second class. If the Big12 is the one that offers the invite, it's a no brainer. If both the ACC and Big12 offered (dream scenario), it would be interesting to see which one UC chose.
When UC was invited to the BigEast, there were plenty of nay-sayers who said UC would struggle at the bottom of the BigEast. Instead UC won a share of 4 out of 5 Championships.
I'm not saying UC would compete for Big12 titles right away. There would be growing pains but UC would be able to recruit at an even higher level and would be competitive in time. UC played OU head to head a couple years back. OU is in the Big12. UC has played and beaten WVU, they are in the Big12.
No matter which conference invites the Bearcats, they will rise to the level of their competition.
They just need the opportunity to get out of the conference mess they are currently in.
I'm not saying we would be a bottom feeder, I meant more in terms of culture. Iowa St is just a bad fit for the Big XII culture and its why it doesn't generate buzz locally or nationally. Its a blah school even though they have a lot of positives.
Its also a big time recruiting hit. That is NOT our recruiting area and never will be. I am petrified of what would happen to our basketball recruiting once we lost our foothold in the east. A lot of our staple players in recent years have been from the New York area.
The Boise piece of this rumor is interesting. I read somewhere that Boise was arguing for UC's entry in the Mountain West for football-only and minimal to no exit fees for leaving. Maybe Boise knows something and is trying to create a favorable relationship with UC. At a minimum I think it speaks to UC's media value. I have a hard time believing Boise would be a target, but if the Big 12 were able to get FSU, Clemson, Cincinnati, and Boise I would definitely call its expansion a success. Plus, by taking Boise and UC you effectively kill the Big East for good, and gut the Mountain West.
Or maybe to rumor is just another red herring.
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