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UC LCoB '12 - @RyanTJBauer
If UNLV and SDSU get in before us that is an insult.
You didn't list Miami. Are we to believe Miami is a lock then or is that false? And are we also to believe that the big 12 is going to 12 or 14.
This post was edited by aves2806 15 months ago
B12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby was on the radio in Dallas today to address conference realignment. I took notes and here are some of the highlights. In short, IMO I don't think think the B12 will be making any moves anytime soon:
Not convinced SEC and B10 are headed are to 16. No signs moves are imminent. B10 beat up over their recent additions (Maryland & Rutgers). They and the SEC will move slowly before make any additional moves.
B12, looking at bottom line and competition. Staying at 10 keeps members at a high payout.
Not oblivious to what is going on around them. They are looking at what looking larger does for them. No evidence larger is better. Moving cautiously.
Have had discussions with NCAA about changing rules regarding CCG rule. Does not think the majority of AD's want a CCG.
Conference members would consider a change if the addition "move the needle" from a financial standpoint. Competitively they have to compete at the "highest level".
Moving to 11 is not a viable option. Committed to 9 conference games.
Not sure if larger configurations (14-16 teams) work. There are negative consequences to scheduling.
Has not had any contact with any potential schools on any level. There has been no serious consideration for any schools since he has led the B12.
Admits the conference does occasionally go through strategic exercises to consider all options for an educational benefit
Ventured on over to the Louisville scout board (mistake, I know). My goodness how their fans have changed their attitude just by getting an invite to the ACC. Never mind the fact that UC has been on par with UofL in the same conference for something like 50 years, and that UofL has been UC's whipping boy for a lot of those years.
I'll post some of the highlights to get people's blood moving on this cold day.
"No reason to play at Cincinnati. If they want to continue to the Keg of Nails they can come here. We don't need to make these kinds of deals with non AQ teams once we're in the ACC."
"Wake Forest is a charter member of the ACC. There's no way they're getting kicked out, particularly for a program like Cincinnati, who is one Kragthorpe-esque hire away from being Memphis." (So much irony, wasn't UofL memphis-esque when they had Kragthorpe? hilarious stuff)
"[Playing] UC is fine as long as they agree to play at PBS instead of Nippert. UofL fans always travel well for that game. Not enough seats for Louisville fans at Nippert. That stadium stinks. We don't need to listen to what UC wants. UC will do this for two reasons. One....They will need the support of UofL in getting into The ACC. Two....UC will need quality OOC opponents playing in Big USA."
"Cincy is an easy, fun trip....as long as we are playing it downtown."
"Good for UC if true but I don't think they "deserve" anything. Even with their relative success in football while in a bcs conference they still maintain one of the smallest AD budgets of any BCS program. That screams undeserving to me."
Not all negative things to say, some had positive - "Wow if true, UC will own that conference in a few years." (Seems a bit optimistic for me, even for a UC fan)
Thanks Clifton. Interesting although I would never expect him to show his cards in this high stakes poker game.
Never believe in what a commissioner tells the public because they work behind the scenes. I do believe that something is going to happen,but we won't know anything until then. Just keep your fingers crossed for some good news,I hope.
"Has not had any contact with any potential schools on any level. There has been no serious consideration for any schools since he has led the B12."
If this is true that would mean all the people talking about ACC to Big 12 teams would be a liar. It would also mean we had no discussions. I find the statement hard to believe. Even if they are serious about not expanding, you cannot tell me no talks have taken place at all. Unless he is tilting this as "contact" to join but the "on any level" throws me off of that too. So, someone is lying strongly.
You sure that wasn't Te'o speaking on behalf?
Its all misdirection until the invites go out. I do believe UC's hat is in the ring along with many other schools. If there really is no ACC movement, I think that will help UC chances in the B12 (but hurt ACC chances).
I think the most telling statement was a few days back about B12 commish talking about B10 cultivating Rutgers and Maryland. I think that was a trial balloon for a team like Cincinnati to join. I am not convinced it is UC yet.
Or T. Tuberville maybe.
He commented that he has had no direct contact with any schools or their intermediaries, but then left it open to interpreation that what happens is that one school begins talking on behalf of another school and ask the members if they are interested. He compared it to junior high dating where your friend asks someone who they like to gauge whether there is interest. To hypothetically play this out: UC goes to WVU, WVU in turns talks it up to the other members and once everyone is on board with the idea formal talks with said school starts. He said it is done this way because schools down want to be formally rejected and the conference does not want to extend an invite and be rejected either.
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