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NCAA Relegation - What If??

  • So, watching that Manchester City game yesterday got me thinking what college football would look like if it operated similar to the EPL, with different levels of schools. For those of you not familiar with how relegation works, basically if you're one of the bottom three teams in your division, you drop down to the bottom level, and the top few teams in the bottom tier get to move up. This would have solved the "Boise" issue before it even became an issue, because Boise would have moved up and been able to prove whether or not they belonged.

    The way I decided to do it was to take all 126 teams, promote Montana and Appalachian State to make it an evenly divisible 128 teams, and make four "conferences" with 32 teams in each: 16 in the top tier, 16 in the bottom tier. I tried to do it as geographically as possible, and as fairly as possible. I took into account a team's success since 2000 (using the excellent database at http://football.stassen.com/), and slotted each team as best I could. For the most part, I tried to give mid-majors with a 60% winning percentage since 2000 the benefit of the doubt and bumped them up. Similarly, awful BCS conference teams like Indiana, Duke, and Arizona will have to prove they belong with the big boys.

    This obviously has no relevance on anything, but I think this would be an awesome system. And at the end of the season, the top two teams in each conference would go to a Champions league type thing to truly determine the champion. Will never happen, but would be fun if it did! Here's what I came up with... Hopefully it uploads correctly.

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    Greg Cappel

  • I have thought about the same thing. Why does WF, Duke, IU, Washington State etc get a free pass because they are already "in". Other than disrupting status quo, I think the cheating and pressure on coaches would be more pronounced. I like the idea and it is well put together.

    This post was edited by 29bearcat on 5/14/2012 at 10:33 PM

    29bearcat

  • Greg,

    Interesting concept. The difficult thing is intially seeding the teams. For example, I would not have Vanderbuilt and Baylor in the lower tier.

    This post was edited by Wacobearcat on 5/14/2012 at 10:36 PM

    Wacobearcat

  • Wacobearcat said...

    Greg,

    Interesting concept. The difficult thing is intially seeding the teams. For example, I would not have Vanderbuilt and Baylor in the lower tier.

    Yeah, seeding the teams was difficult, especially in the south. The reason I dropped them down is because, since 2000, Baylor has a .359 winning percentage and Vandy's at .296. Granted, Vandy's in the SEC, but i wanted on-field results to count for something. I know Baylor has been good the past couple years, but I didn't want one RG3 powered run to outweigh the rest of their poor performance. The nice thing about this is that, if you don't feel like a team belongs in the bottom tier, they have the opportunity to prove it on the field and move up.

    Greg Cappel

  • 29bearcat said...

    I have thought about the same thing. Why does WF, Duke, IU, Washington State etc get a free pass because they are already "in". Other than disrupting status quo, I think the cheating and pressure on coaches would be more pronounced. I like the idea and it is well put together.

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  • Greg Cappel said...

    Yeah, seeding the teams was difficult, especially in the south. The reason I dropped them down is because, since 2000, Baylor has a .359 winning percentage and Vandy's at .296. Granted, Vandy's in the SEC, but i wanted on-field results to count for something. I know Baylor has been good the past couple years, but I didn't want one RG3 powered run to outweigh the rest of their poor performance. The nice thing about this is that, if you don't feel like a team belongs in the bottom tier, they have the opportunity to prove it on the field and move up.

    You should send this to every person in the ncaa. Just because.

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  • Well done sir! I have thought of the same thing many times. The final day of EPL play is unlike any other in sports.

    Regular season? Everyone plays one home game and one away game against everyone else. What a concept.....

    CapitalCat440

  • CapitalCat440 said...

    Well done sir! I have thought of the same thing many times. The final day of EPL play is unlike any other in sports.

    Regular season? Everyone plays one home game and one away game against everyone else. What a concept.....

    And I even put your Rockets in the upper tier...

    Greg Cappel

  • It would work, the way soccer works is absolutely brilliant. Really builds up fan support IMO with teams at the bottom selling out games at the end of the year to make sure their team doesn't get relegated. I've though about this for over a year now and think it would be really cool to see in America.

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  • And the guys at SB Nation did something similar, although they kept existing leagues and made each league a lower tier for another existing league. So the bottom Big 10 team would get relegated to the MAC, bottom ACC team relegated to the Big East, etc. Kind of interesting to see what would have happened had this been in place since 2005. If you have some time, I recommend the article.

    Relegation Simulation: Rewriting College Football History - SBNation.com

    Time to put relegation into action with seven years of simulations. Boston College to the Big East? UCLA and Washington to the Mountain West? Which SEC team will be stuck in the Sun Belt in...

    www.sbnation.com

    Greg Cappel