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Bearcats front and center on ESPN Bubble Watch Update

  • While there does seem to be some undeserved hate from certain media at times toward UC, this team really does break the mold completely on the reliance on RPI. So it is fair to discuss it of course. The conclusion of the Bubble Watch seems to be how is this not a tournament team with the 6-3 vs. Top 50 record and so forth, but they leave open the thought that somehow the selection committee could still "punish" us severely without a bid due to the non-conference SOS number which is weighting the RPI number down.

    I tend to think that some focus on the Bearcats resume when you have things like the ESPN BPI being pushed more out there this year may help the committee to dig deeper as they should than just a blind look at RPI.

    Having said that, just keep winning and beat Villanova tomorrow to keep removing any uncertainty from the equation. Go Bearcats!

    College Basketball Bubble Watch - Cincinnati Bearcats pose interesting case study in computer numbers - NCAA Men's Basketball - ESPN

    Who's in and who's out of the NCAA Tournament? Find out on ESPN.com's Bubble Watch.

    espn.go.com

    bcatwilly

  • Of course one other major point that is missed here is that they seem to think that the RPI is the only "computer number" out there in the title of their post. The Bearcats fare much better in other "computer numbers" such as the Kenpom rating and the ESPN BPI. Hey, at least it is publicity for our team :)

    bcatwilly

  • The one thing that disturbs me, other than the RPI, is the 6-5 record over the last 11. WVU, Rutgers and USF were all perfectly winnable, and losses we may really regret if all doesn't go our way.

    I still don't see us being left out, but I was saying the same thing in 2006.

    BJUnklFkr

  • What bugs me is if you don't look at SoS and RPI for just a second we've done enough vs top teams to prove that we belong. Yeah, we started slow and played a weak OOC schedule, but is that enough to cancel out our two top 10 rpi wins and our winning record vs top 25 and top 50 teams?

    I HATE the SoS argument because how does who you play truly define if you are good? Anyone that has watched this team the past few months knows we are worthy...the only thing stopping us is one awful loss (without parker/mbodj) and "bad wins"?

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    Eric Lilly

  • BJUnklFkr said...

    The one thing that disturbs me, other than the RPI, is the 6-5 record over the last 11. WVU, Rutgers and USF were all perfectly winnable, and losses we may really regret if all doesn't go our way.

    I still don't see us being left out, but I was saying the same thing in 2006.

    I hear ya, and winning at Villanova tomorrow will help to erase any remaining paranoia. However, I did check out of curiosity against the 2006 team. And this year's team has 6 Top 50 RPI wins compared to 4 Top 50 RPI wins for that year's team. In fact as of right now this year's team has one more Top 50 RPI win than last year's team, which had 5 of them.

    bcatwilly

  • What I hate is that some will ding you for SOS and RPI, but SOS is a component of RPI so you are getting dinged twice for it.

    shaunsimpson

  • BJUnklFkr said...

    The one thing that disturbs me, other than the RPI, is the 6-5 record over the last 11. WVU, Rutgers and USF were all perfectly winnable, and losses we may really regret if all doesn't go our way.

    I still don't see us being left out, but I was saying the same thing in 2006.

    That team was left out because of Kirkland's injury and some of the blowout losses that followed it. We also didn't have marquee wins, just decent wins. This year's team has a road win against a team most believe is a Final Four favorite, a Top 20 Notre Dame squad, a Top 20 Louisville squad that many feel can make the Final Four, and a Marquette team many feel can make it to the Final Four. And road and home wins against bubble teams. This team is comfortably in. The only reason we might not be in the running for a 6 seed is because of the attention people are putting on our non-conference schedule. If we keep winning we'll probably be paired with a weak #2 seed.

    This post was edited by CatsClaw on 3/2/2012 at 4:08 PM

    CatsClaw

  • its not close.....trust me.....we are 32 on s curve of 50.....

    Cats1969

  • During a game a commentator said since 2005 89% of BE teams that went 9-9 went to the NCAA. I am sure 11 -7 would do it. I remember last year some Big ten homer Harry Palm said UC would need 12 wins in the BE to just slip in even though we went undefeated OOC. Unfortunately SEC football does not get ridiculed for their OOC schedule the same way our BB team does. If Florida had to play at OSU in the 2007 BCS championship game in the snow in Columbus do you think Florida would have won? I would like to see an ESPIN pundit raise that question.

    the C

  • If UC loses to Villanova and then loses in the second round of the Big East Tournament, they'll still get in at this point.

    Staff Writer - Bearcatlair.com

    Ryan Pence

  • Ryan Pence said...

    If UC loses to Villanova and then loses in the second round of the Big East Tournament, they'll still get in at this point.

    i think we are sweating hard still in that circumstance.

    dp3113

  • Ryan Pence said...

    If UC loses to Villanova and then loses in the second round of the Big East Tournament, they'll still get in at this point.

    I feel like people who say this (and there are a lot of them) just want to convince themselves that its true. UC will be cutting it very close if that happens, especially if the bubble shrinks because of mid major conference upsets.

    Overrated