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That's right around the same numbers Shaq told me last time I talked to him...
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If Shaq is at 190+ right now, that is great news. Hopefully he can get to 200/205 by the start of next season
He has filled out in the shoulders a lot better than I expected. He worked really hard in the weight room while he couldn't practice in the fall quarter...
can you defined skilled in the context you used it there? when some people say "skilled" they mean natural athletic ability...others when they use it mean basketball skills- i.e ball handling, creating a shot, post moves, etc.
Ellis is 6'11//......artie didnt mean Gates in that statment.....got excited forgot to add that...
I spoke with asst last week and he said if season started tomorrow he bet this would be the lineup
Cash SK Shaq Ellis and then ??? He said Titus if they get him,,,,,,or go small and start Parker,,,,,,or Obekpa if they get him
He also mention a few other guys but I couldnt write down the names of guys I didnt know. Some big guy from Ga, and some other juco.
He did say Ellis could play the 5 next yr for sure, especially in dribble drive offense.
Chad, Starting to wonder if Andrew Young will become this year's Mbodj ??? Or is there yet another juco ???
You never know...
Chad, Read elsewhere that 6-6 Mekale mckay a 3 star football Iprospect that we were recruting for football mentions us as having intersest in him in BBall..??? My last question for awhile as surgery looms tommorow...Love you guys...and this Site..GO CATS...
Wow, Ellis is 6'11 now?
I was very impressed with the few minutes I saw Ellis on the court in the early games of the schedule. He was very fluid for his size, could handle the ball, played hard and focused and you could tell he had potential to be an inside out type of player. Throw in his long arms and him growing, the kid could become quite a wild card.
Can't wait for Shaq. He will be a major upgrade in athletic ability at the 3 spot for us. Hopefully that jump shot will see major improvement this off season. From his videos, I've just loved his intensity and desire to go attack the rim.
I always cringe a bit when people tell me that a freshman or redshirt freshman is going to come in and start all of sudden. I think JJ will be battling pretty hard to earn a consistent starting spot next year. If JJ finds at least a mid range jump shot this summer and gains his usual muscle, this kid will be a very tough match up for many teams at the 4 spot. Currently his biggest weakness is that bigger guys can guard him because he has no jumpshot which takes away his good post game. I'm excited about Ellis but right now I'm going with the expectation that JJ will receive most of the minutes at the 4 position.
IMO we will need another solid 5 man (i'm not counting on Ellis to be a 5 yet) for next year. I would still like to see that last scholarship go to either a talented pg or an athletic wing player. If not then pocket the thing for a better 2013 haul.
Good point Schroed. You never want to get too up or too down on the possibility of the guys sitting out being so good. At the very least though Thomas and Ellis will add some tremendous athleticism to the frontcourt and the redshirt season should find them better prepared for the physical rigors of conference play. In looking at next season's roster of 11 returning players there will be a ton of backcourt experience and a whole lot of athleticism up front. I like that there will be competition for time and minutes as you'd probably only have 2 spots for sure at PG and SG to Cash and SK. The other three will be up for grabs.
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Although I do agree that Mick has a history of overhyping players in the past the program was in a completely different state at that point and he almost needed to do so. Shaq is our most heralded recruit in this class and I don't think that it's far fetched to think that he would've started.
Cronin hyped up Parker all offseason gotta give the man some credit.
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SK and Dixon last year as well.
Random UC practice observation ... Octavius Ellis is going to be REALLY good in a few years
there is a big difference between hyping up an upperclassman who has several years of experience in the program and big east and a redshirt freshman.
if it makes people sleep better at night knowing we have a guy like shaq who "should be starting" unavailable on the bench- then I'm all for it. however, shaq thomas would not be starting over anyone in the current lineup, and he will have to unseat a 4th year player next year to get a starting nod.
I agree, but I do think if he continues to develop he'd have an outside shot of starting later in the season IF UC goes towards a guard oriented lineup. If they ran a 4 guard lineup Shaq could become more valuable than Parker because of his size. Otherwise I don't see how Shaq would start. Evan Sanders, who some here billed as the best recruit of the entire class, would have a leg up on Shaq.
Regardless of if Shaq starts or not, he's one of the few guys on this team that could be a super star. Personally, I don't care who starts and I'm certainly not going to try to predict how long it'll take Shaq to put it all together - but it shouldn't be thrown out of consideration.
Yeah it really doesn't matter who starts. SK didn't start last year. He still got a lot of minutes and had the highest usage rate on the team.
The combination of Parker and Shaq should make the possibility of a 4 guard offense more attractive since we will have a lot more length on the wing. But that is also dependent on finding someone who can man the 5 like Yancy can.
Also, I like Jermaine Sanders and think he will become very good for us, but I think its ridiculous to say he has a leg up on Shaq at this point. Did Parker have a leg up on Kilpatrick coming into last year?
No way does Jermaine Sanders have a leg up on Shaq in my opinion.
I meant from an experience standpoint. However, it certainly wouldn't be a ridiculous thought. Again, it seemed like a lot/most on here thought Sanders would be an immediate impact player and was the best recruiting of the class which included Shaq. Now all of a sudden Shaq is way better than Sanders. The hype that gets built from sitting out is amazing.
Since this thread is all about hype, I'll throw my hype observation of the day out there:
Cash Wright this winter has become the best UC point guard since Nick Van Exel.
(Before the naysayers chime in with these points, I'll qualify it by saying I consider Steve Logan to have been a shooting guard and, while Kenny Satterfield was probably more talented, he didn't show enough of it during his brief stay at UC to earn the designation.)
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